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On occasion, I read more forums than just the Guild Relations one on the World of Warcraft forums.worldofwarcraft.com site. Sometimes I wander over to the General forums for general entertainment, and usually while I’m there, I see a lot of threads on the topic of Battlegrounds and whether Horde or Alliance have an inherent edge thanks to the various forces that influence things.

Alterac Valley is the big one right now that everyone is up in arms about - changes implemented over the last year have shifted the win:loss ratio according to some, to where Alliance is constantly losing to Horde, where it used to be flipped around, with Horde claiming Alliance had a geographical advantage. (and before that, there were 18 hour AV rounds…)

Do I know if any of it is accurate?

Not really. All I know is that as a casual player who wants to gear up my toons so I can hold my own in Heroics and occasional Raids I get invited to, grabbing a few rounds of PvP here and there is good for my gearing and therefore, I do it.

(but, check out this post on the European forums, entitled “How to win Alterac Valley (horde)“).


Fastest Honor? Premades

I don’t do the premade thing very often, but I do often think about how helpful it would be to find a good premade team to join for those days that Warsong Gulch is the PvP of the day, or for when I need 30+ WSG tokens to buy the PvP equipment I’m looking at. PUG WSG rounds very often tend to be excruciatingly long and drawn out, but a premade can get through the round in a rewarding amount of time.

I suppose Arena teams could also be a fast way to honor, but my personal casual style of play doesn’t include an Arena team, as my friends are largely into PvE and it’s hard to even convince them to PvP for the benefit of their PvEing. So, I’ll have to let someone else comment on that or write about it :)

One battleground I have started to get into premades with is one that you cannot join as a raid or as a group even - Alterac Valley. So then, how in the world do I get into premades with it?

Enter Addon: AV Preform Enabler

AV preform enabler

This addon is apparently only available for Horde-side, at least by this author. I’m sure there’s an Alliance version that someone else has created, hopefully someone can leave a comment with its name or link on some repository :)

It’s basically an automated way to trigger mass-queuing of everyone in the raid group, using an underlying communication channel subscribed to by the addon itself.

All you, the user, have to do, is have it installed and when you’re at the Battleground Master you’ll have an option for “Preform AV Enabler”. As long as you’re in a group and have these windows open, the Raid Leader or Party Leader will be able to queue you and the rest of the team at the same time, hoping to all land in the same Battleground instance.

Why Use It? And Does It Always Work?

I use it mainly because a 40-person PUG generally results in battleground lines full of abuse and whining, and a preform team is at least more silent, with the exception of the non-preform BG members insulting the preform for not winning the round fast enough. And yes, the honor tends to come more quickly because the rounds are faster and more efficient, and thus I don’t have to grind PvP endlessly when what I really want to be doing is PvE.

Does it always work? Well, no. There are still plenty of times that I queue for battlegrounds alone because there aren’t enough people interested in getting together for a premade/preform yet. If there are enough people to form a decently-sized raid (25-30 ppl), it tends to work well.

One of the big time-wasters, however, is sitting between rounds, watching the Raid Leader add and remove us all from the queue in the hope of getting 95% of us into the same BG round and forcing only a small number of people to manually queue and “hope to get in”.

But frankly, I’d rather waste my time sitting there between rounds than waste my time reading players abusing their own teammates and whining constantly while I’m in the battleground itself. #1 is less joy-draining than #2, at least for me.

From having glanced through the Elitist Jerks thread about the topic (linked above), I can see this is quite a hot topic these days. I’m looking forward to the responses I get to this post ;)

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I don’t know about “horde only” or “alliance variant”, but the repository known as wowace, has within it a addon called LightQueue. This addon does much the same thing, as with the one you mentioned this does NOT guarantee a group in the same bg, but it certainly seems to be somewhat affective.

My guild does this pretty regularly and a group of at least 7-8 of us pretty much guarantees a win even against a nearly full premade from anywhere else (like zuljin, :) ).. Its not always so, but if I have a group of the guys with me I very rarely walk away with a loss.

I hear non-stop comments about “PvP is broken”.. no one seems to provide evidence of this though. I think this is much dependent upon your view of it, and your status as a regular or what I call “crack addict” player. The “crack addict” players who do PvP are usually raiders that just got out of raids (so if you want to miss premades do some AV queue’s before 10, most guilds are still IN SSC/Kara/TK/ZA and can’t put a force together). I see more of the addicts complaining because they don’t think its fair that I can get on every 3 days and get the same honor they got for grinding it out for a week (cause I win). I think this is why the PvP system was really put in place, to allow the non crack addict folks a chance to get some good gear. I haven’t looked at other classes but the pvp gear for locks seems as good as raid gear. Just my 2 cents anyway..

I’m so so SO happy to hear that horde are whining too, cause the alliance cries all day long “guard SH, NOOB!”, “leave FWGY moron!”.. its rediculous.. Then you check them on armory and they have

January 30th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Rizzo
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Oops, it appears McGoo got cut off! :-\

I’ve been around as long as Val, and did AV back when it was 12+ hourfests on a single server. It got to a point where I only ever Queued for an AV when there was a guild advertising that they’d be going in (they stopped advertising except to a few they liked, because it became stupid). Literally only 15-20 of the 40 people were in the guild and they basically said ‘listen to us, and you win’ and we did, I think the fastest we did it in was like 30 minutes.. it was INSANE!

Then Horde got hit with the nerf bat near when the multi-server battlegrounds came out and we’d be lucky to win 1 out of 5 AVs…. Now I hear its more ‘even’ or at least Horde friendly? I might just try to go back in! It was definitely a great BG for a healer class!

As for PVP/Arena1 gear… My main is a priest and I just have a buncha blues from level 70 dungeons and they’re better for what I want than 95% of the award gear… The NEW arena gear is pretty sick, but I’m not about to delve into an arena team just for that. My brother keeps touting Resilience gear, but for a PvE priest I can’t really see much need to focus on getting Resi gear by reducing my +healing, Int. or Mana regen just for reduced damage taken by crits….. or is that just me?

~Yaja

February 5th, 2008 at 2:13 am
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http://simplytatangs.blogspot.com/2008/08/alterac-valley-strategy.html

I was one of those who thought that the bg for alterac was uneven. That is until today. I finally found some players who explained the plan of sending groups to individual targets. The speed at which players can take targets and then take out Van is amazing.

August 3rd, 2008 at 3:46 am

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