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A Letter To The Lazy PUG Member

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Dear Lazy PUG Member:

Hey, how's it going?

Wait, don't answer that! I really don't care to know the details of how shitty your life is, or how undergeared or overgeared you are, or how many 80s you have. What I really mean to say is:

Hey, welcome to the party!

Here we are, together, as virtual strangers - sharing a dungeon adventure together, and maybe starting down the road towards a more long-term friendship. Also, if you're into it, maybe we're even progressing towards a raiding relationship or a guildmate relationship if it all works out well.

I go into every party with a focus on the good - or at least, the entertaining.

You Entertain Me, But Not In A Good Way

And you, Lazy PUGger, I find sadly entertaining, in a twisted way.

Right from the start of the grouping when you ask for a summon to the instance (before anyone's even at the stone), through to the killing and looting of the last mob and reading your gear-related whines or woots ... you entertain me.

For a limited time only! Just as long as *I* need *you*.

Do you wonder, dear Lazy PUGger, why it's so difficult to find a quality group? (I know you do, I hear you complain about it when you finally DO find a decent group - as you punish the wrong players with your gripes)

Could it be that you consider your time more important than those of your party-mates?

Like those ninja AFK's after a wipe that last just long enough for you to get resurrected by those who ran back?

Or almost any of the AFK's that are sudden, unexplained and of an indetermined length.

How about when you put yourself on auto-follow of someone else without being polite and asking if it's okay first?

Sure, there are exceptions where these things above cannot be avoided, but I'm not talking about a level of laziness that "cannot be avoided" here. I'm talking about a level of laziness that saves your time, but wastes the time of others.

Thanks For The Run But Sorry, I Don't Need You Anymore

Passive Aggressive behavior rules the roost Online and In-Game.

Bael'Gar's Firey Essence, in Blackrock Depths

Pre-Outlands Tankadin

Many people will take a Passive stance during a PUG group with one or two lazy members, simply because it's too much of a pain and time drain to kick the lazy members and replace them with new people. The Passive approach has the non-lazy members live their way through the encounter, but the result is generally the same:

The party breaks up immediately afterwards, and there is NO chance of chain-running of instances with this group.

Or even better, if the non-lazy members are all from the same guild, they remove the lazies and replace 'em for the next run in their chain runs.

Lazy PUGger - is this the reason you don't build a strong Friends list? People you put on your list never seem to have time to run with you a second time anyway?

Lazy? Or Inexperienced?

We're all lazy, I'll give you that. At times, we all lean on our party mates, and at times it's completely unavoidable or even beneficial. And sometimes it's not laziness either... it's inexperience - if you're new to the Dungeon Scene, maybe you've never thought about the "team play" aspect of dungeon runs.

But the LazyPUGger traits that I used to Tweet about (before my @WoWGrrl account was suspended for whatever undetermined reason) in the #badpug context are something else entirely. These LazyPUGgers are hoping for as free of a ride as possible, but don't really see how they're sabotaging themselves from getting it. And they defend their behavior

I think I'm going to move my #badpug stuff over from Twitter to YouTube in a VLog format.

I can't wait to hear the variety of responses from players who range from extremely lazy to extremely independent, because I know that both camps are very vocal about their reasonings and beliefs.

It shall be interesting, and I hope all of you PUGgers and PUGger-wannabees will follow along!

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  1. Blah..
    I've been in the elitist guilds that raid for 6 hours a night every day of the year. I've been in the casual raiding guilds that talk more than raid. The leveling guilds, PVP guilds, and even as a guild of one. BY FAR, I like the guild-of-one more than anything. I doubt I will ever raid again, much less run a PUG.

  2. For me PUGers are mainly unexperienced people who cannot even imagine bringing potions etc. to participate to the party.
    But I also have met great PUGers, and of course also some really lazy PUGers, but I have found lazy guys in my guild too...
    Nothing is totally white or black in life, grey is the color we find in most occasions.
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  3. Sounds about right, especially with most PUG folk being inexperienced players (when compared to a seasoned raider), and the fact that bringing guildmates doesn't negate laziness in any way :) (I still consider it a PUG if it's a guildmate tho - a PUG is a spur-of-the-moment dungeon run that was not planned with a specific team in my basic definition)

    We were all inexperienced once, and I do hope my silly rants like this one help avoid some of the pains of becoming experienced and sought-after for some who are still in the "inexperienced" phase of the game.

  4. If it's a wipe everyone needs to run back. If you die and thea healer lives, it's OK to wait for a rez. And if you have an emergency need to AFK whisper your healer and ask sweetly if you can have a rez when you are back at keys.

    Otherwise, expect to die. A lot. For the remainder of the PUG.
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  5. I like your definition of PUG, I agree that we can consider guildmates like PUGers if there is no correct preparation for the raid.
    I will try and pass the message at my (modest) level!
    Mano´s last blog ..Colinas pardas My ComLuv Profile

  6. @candy I loved your last line there.

    I've never let someone die for not running back after wipes (standing in the fire, yes), but I've certainly outright refused to rez someone, and encouraged the team to continue on without them while they run back. (usually I secure this in whispers with the tank first before I bring it to the public party line, and it's when we know we can make it on four)

  7. It sounds like the PUG I was in yesterday, my guildmate 74 Pally, 2 Death Knights, Warrior, and my 70 Holy Priest ran Utgarde Keep. She's my second one, have a 80 BE Holy Priest too (you know her as Holi on the Zul'jin server.)

    The DK tank was good but was rushing through everything, other DK was afk a LOT. I sent a tell to the Dk tank and told him to slow down otherwise, he might die since I had no mana. :) He listened and all was fine, now the other DK was a tard plain and simple. I usually give people chances and will run with them again if they were not the greatest, but he was lazy, afk, inconsiderate, so no I won't group with him again.

    I've been 3-manning a lot of WOW instances with two other guildmates we like the challenge but I still enjoy PUGs. Even the bad PUGs aka 'Pugs gone Wild' are entertaining. grins
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  8. haha, I like your writing :)

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